Fan Etiquette Guide for Music Lovers
 
A Survey Posted and Compiled
by Lone Star Mama
Editor's Note:  A recent survey was conducted by an individual who just happens to be part of "The Posse" here at Texicana Music Central.  The survey was conducted on several of the music discussion groups on the internet and the results were then posted on those music lists.  Feedback below  is from both artists and fans.  I thought it was so well done and so helpful that I have added the results here for your perusal with Dana's blessing.  You may e-mail Dana with additional comments at the e-mail address listed below.

Re:  General Etiquette

A) Let me get my equipment set up, guitars tuned, and sound check before we chat.

B) One request: when I first come off the stage, please, please... LET ME GO PEE!!! I try to "make the rounds", but sometimes on a crowded night, it's hard to spend time at all the tables... so, please don't ever feel slighted if I miss getting around to you, and rest assured that I am glad you're there (unless you were the one yelling "PAT GREEN").

C) If you want to see truly top notch audience etiquette, have the live music experience of your life and really enjoy a show, go to a House Concert.

D) It takes more than one fan to make an artist successful, so let someone else have a chance.

ETexas Music Artist Brian Burns shared, “Just thought of another irritant in live performance situations: I'm 40 minutes into the show, audience is loving it, just got finished plucking the last notes of "The Crash At Crush", sweat running off the end of my nose, glasses fogged over, fingers bleeding, and some lady who hasn't been out to a bar since the Carter Administration walks by and says, "play something GOOD..."

F) I must say one of my pet peeves is people singing along.  I go to hear live music so I can hear the performers.....not someone behind me singing loudly along with the performer.

G) Another is people singing along like they were at home listening to a CD.  I didn't pay to hear them. All these fail to show respect to the artists that they have come to see.

HWhat made the evening a chore for us was the drunk.  We're parked close to the stage, singing along, when the drunk decided to engage us in conversation.  After a few more drinks, he's acting more and more stupid -- acting like he's making a move on my girl (while his own girl, not as drunk, just stands by).  In the middle of Charlie's set, the drunk says he's ready to move on to Cowboy's Red River, and wants us to go along!  I think my wife and I made like we were going to the bar, or something, and stayed lost until he found some other target for his drunkenness.  On the good side, though, he did buy us a drink. :)

Re:  Requests at Live Shows

A) Yelling "Freebird", serious or not, is not cool.

B) Yelling out requests is flat out rude.

C) Would you walk up to a juke box and start punching in selections without
first inserting coinage?

D) If you don't even know the title, you sure as heck shouldn't be shouting
out a request.  And it's even worse if it's requesting covers.

E) KNOW YOUR ARTIST.

F) Several agreed with the statement that "most artists prefer that when it's 'request time' they'll say so".

G) Every artist, venue and crowd has their own personality.

H) There is one and only one proper way to make a request: write it on a note of legal tender and politely leave it near the artist.  He's/She's trying to make a living.

I) A $100 dollar bill is always appropriate!!

J) Actually, asking for ANYTHING while the performer is on stage is impolite... disrupts the artist's train of thought (yes, there is an actual thought process that goes into performing music), and generally disrupts the show.

K) I don't think most artists mind hearing from the audience, and I think most of them will tell you to shut up if they're not interested in hearing your requests.

L) One artist said "I am always expected to do the same song every night I'm on stage no matter how long I perform, I'm just thankful I didn't write "Alice's Restaurant." I loved that.

M) I have been guilty of shouting out a request once in a while, but it usually stems from a song just played making me think of another song they do.  I don't think I shout out the request during a song though.  I have been guilty of writing a request and trying to nonchalantly place it at the feet of the singer while dancing.

Re:  Autographs

1) Autographs During Performance

A) Rude!

B) If someone is trying to get an autograph while an artist is on stage, they should be taken out and paddled with a 2x4.

C) Unless it involves a dying person's last request WAIT or contact the artist through his/her business contacts if you can't wait until the end of the show.

D) Under no circumstances is appropriate to interrupt an artist on stage for an autograph. Under no circumstances is it appropriate to interrupt an artist on stage.  Well, unless there's an amp on fire.

E) NO!

F) Autographs during the show? Only if you want to get your ass thrown out the door early.  Not just because you have to leave early.

2) Autographs In General

A) Most people with multiple items are usually polite enough to wait until everyone else is through the line.

B) An acceptable number of autographs is difficult to put a number on.

C) Know your artist and be respectful of others waiting.

D) I am always honored and pleased to sign autographs and
personalize CDs, t-shirts, etc., just not while I'm on stage.  Being asked to write a paragraph-long message on a small CD face with a wide-tipped Sharpie, also, is difficult.

E) If they want to sign, they'll come out after the show.  If they DON'T want to sign, they won't.  I agree that there should be a limit.  I actually think that more than ONE item -unless its a gift for someone else- is slightly hoggish.

Re:  Photographs

A) People are usually very gracious in allowing me to the front of the stage to get a couple of good shots.  If anyone finds it distracting, please tell me.  I want you to enjoy the show as much as I do!!!!

B) If you're 12' tall and wearing a big cowboy hat, be kind and let the old chick with the camera up to the front to take a couple pics and maybe drool a little. I'll appreciate it a LOT!!!

C) The key here is not to inconvenience the artists or the audience.

D) Click away -- just be careful that my image does not break the camera!

E) When I was a manager, fans would often send photos they'd taken... most of the photos are not so good (while a fan may see a shot as dripping with emotion, often musicians will see a picture of themselves looking like they're eating the microphone or grimacing horribly). I'd say, in general, the fewer photos the better. I think its less distracting to the musician than to the folks in the first few rows.

F) And no flash photos never, no way.

G) Photographers don't bother me except when they just stand there in the way (of both seeing and dancing) thinking just because they have a camera in hand allows them the best spot in the house.

H) I would say no flashes during the show. Before or after great!

I) Often depends on the artist and the venue -- it they allow it - - yeah one or two is probably OK - taking a whole roll is distracting.

J) As far as pictures.... the usual request for those with photo passes is that you shoot only during the first song or two. This sounds reasonable and considerate to me.

Re: Talking Over The Music

A) Yes, it is proper to "shush" someone talking and/or laughing over the music, they should leave!

B) Talking over the music depends on the show. If you're at Woody's Sports Bar in the audience you are going to hear the noise of the game on the TV's or the racket around the pool tables.

C) If you're at a House Concert you should expect to hear nothing but the performers.

D) Is usually done by people who are trying to compete with the performer for the center of attention... that is why they invariably sit directly in front of the stage. Management should correct the situation, but they won't - don't want to run off customers.

E) I have corrected the situation in the past by either walking off the stage in the middle of a song or packing up my equipment and vacating the premises - this, however, cuts down on the number of available venues for me to play.
The most effective solution, in my experience, is for more attentive listeners to take Everett's lead and shushhhh the culprit.

F) I have tried scowling, shushing, asking people to please keep it down.  Once, years ago, at a Lucinda Williams show at the Iron Horse, I was next to a table that was prattling away. I leaned over and said, "you have no idea how little I want to listen to your conversation." One of the people looked over
at me and said, "This is a bar. It's not the symphony." So, obviously, folks have different perceptions. It taught me a valuable lesson: when shushing
people, a gun works best.

G) If your at an outdoor festival - forget it - if your at an arena - you can probably forget it - if your in a bar - good luck, but if you are in a club where the primarily interest is listening to music tell your friend to shut up.  If it's a stranger at a nearby table ask him to be quiet - if that doesn't work you can always ask someone at the club to do the deed and if that doesn't work - spill a pitcher of beer on them.

Re:  E-Mail

A) It's up to the musician to set the pace.  If they don't want it, it's their place to say something about it.

B) Are you a friend or a fan?  I hate jokes, prayer wheels, urban legends, etc. in my email anytime.

C) Keep it musical and personal.  Jokes, prayer wheels, urban legends, etc. are extremely irritating, and people ramming their political propaganda (most of which also belongs in the Urban Legends category) down my throat via my inbox makes me livid.

D) Artists -once they've got a career that keeps them busy- generally don't want to be emailed.  Prior to that - when they're just starting out and don't have any team in place - it's probably appreciated.  A rule of thumb - if they post their contact info on their website, it's fine.  If they don't, don't.

E) Getting on Artist A's e-Group and promoting Artist B's show is extREEEMEly impolite... unless (a) the two are on the same bill for that show or (b) one of the artists is deceased (preferably not the one doing the show).  Faron Young agrees strongly with me on this point. ;-) I'm sure it seems harmless, but from an artist's point of view, it kinda cuts.

Re:  Green Room

A) It's up to the musician to set the pace.  If they don't want it, it's their place to say something about it.

B) Unless you're invited, STAY THE HELL OUT.

C) I enjoy visiting and having a drink with my fans as much as
I enjoy performing for them, although it can get hectic trying to converse with too many folks at once... I'm a terrible multi-tasker.

D) Many artists need some privacy after a show, they want a few minutes to cool off and gain their composure before meeting the fans.

E) This is the presenter's job. It should be discussed with the artist prior to the show - "how tight do you want the door after the show"?

Re: Cell Phones

A) Was at a John Hiatt show the other night and a guy sitting behind me kept getting calls on his cell phone and then talking loud enough so that people on the other hand could hear him over the show -- finally the guy next to him said something like " OK we get it - your the most important guy in the whole place and we paid our money to come and listen to you talk to your friends - would you please shut the damn thing off?

B) Anybody that uses a cell phone during a show or talks over the performance deserves to be removed from the venue. If the management won't do it, I'd say it wouldn't be very hard to take up a collection of a dollar or two from each person surrounding them and say to the person "We are sorry that you do not seem to be interested in this show. Here's your money back. Go buy you a mirror so you can see the act that you seem to love the best."

C) Cell phones CAN be used during a show...my buddies and I occasionally dial each other up during a show for a "LIVE BROADCAST"...we know via the caller ID who is calling, so the dialer never has to speak.  Makes the one left at home feel almost like they were there.  And there are no taping issues by any means, cell quality broadcast generally sucks...it's more the thought that counts.

D) If you are concerned about the kids at home, put the cell on vibrate and stick in your pocket.  You can always get up and get out to get your call or message.

Re: Dancing

1) Dancing – the question was asked if dancing is appropriate when there is not a designated dance floor.

A) Any artist that doesn't like people dancing to his music must be a strange person, indeed.

B) The only thing that I ask is watch where you are dancing...I play a lot of places that don't have a real stage, like at Snuffy's, so all the equipment gets set up in a corner on the floor...I can't tell you how many times I have been knocked in the mouth by the microphone because the dancers weren't watching where they were going and they hit the end of the boom, while I am singing, and I am here to tell you it hurts, not to mention it can most certainly stop a song dead in its tracks.

C) To me, having you and Steve, or your wonderful kids dancing, just makes things "right". BUT, having a couple dance, that are looking for attention, and aggressively getting in the way, can be irritating. There is a difference to those looking for folks to "watch" them dance, and those who dance because it is part of how they enjoy the music. That make sense?????

D) My wife is 5' tall and can hardly see at most of the shows we go to in bars because of people standing on the dance floor in front of the stage.  If you're in the front find a seat or at least dance and move so we can see the
performers from time to time?  

E) Why can't clubs locate the dance floor at the back of the venue, BEHIND the seating area, so that EVERYONE can enjoy the show?

If you have a comment you would like to add to any of these categories, you may e-mail it to LoneStarMama@MissLana.com

 

 

 

 

                                                                            

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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